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the government services that they get. and those are going to be cut back, too. i don't think the fiscal cliff problem hit social security or medicare right away. they kind of sealed that off from se questions ration. but you mentioned unemployment before. there are a variety of other government programs that will be drastically cut back on tuesday morning if we don't get some kind of a deal by monday night. >> you know, ryan, when you look at -- when clarence was talking,ives looking and i think i have it. bills that republicans and congress have blocked this year. a bill that would have increased the minimum wage, a buffet rule bill, the employment, nondis crimination act that would have prohibited hiring people on the basis of sexual orientation. a u.n. treaty to protect the rights of disabled people around the world and the paycheck famous act so that women don't get paid less than men for doing the same job. i mean, there's been a variety of bills that they have seen not go past. they have actually stopped in a variety of ways that would have helped the amer
the government services that they get. and those are going to be cut back, too. i don't think the fiscal cliff problem hit social security or medicare right away. they kind of sealed that off from se questions ration. but you mentioned unemployment before. there are a variety of other government programs that will be drastically cut back on tuesday morning if we don't get some kind of a deal by monday night. >> you know, ryan, when you look at -- when clarence was talking,ives looking and...
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but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the government work. >> always great to talk to you, my friend. thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from "meet the press." that's coming up, too. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. if we took the already great sentra apart and com
but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the government work. >> always great to talk to you, my friend. thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from...
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. >> i can't believe that these five people who are charged with the responsibility of governing this nation can't come to some sort of agreement to put this sdasries event off. >>> what if both sides actually are -- what do both sides stand to gain by going over the cliff in that's what our next guest points out, where he says that many of them have calculated it is better to go over the cliff, at least temporarily, than swallow a raw deal. with me is jonathan allen. it's good to have you here. break it down for us. what's in it for both sides? >> i think what is at work here is going over the fiscal cliff is a better option than the worst-scale snare i don't. it matt not be the optimal snare i don't, but for republicans, they would have an tune to vote for tack cuts. they also may figure they'll have an opportunity to negotiate for other items. they don't want to cave for president obama. on the democratic side, they're winning the public relations war on this. republicans, if you look at the polls are in the 20s right now, president obama is sitting in the mid 50s on the fiscal cli
. >> i can't believe that these five people who are charged with the responsibility of governing this nation can't come to some sort of agreement to put this sdasries event off. >>> what if both sides actually are -- what do both sides stand to gain by going over the cliff in that's what our next guest points out, where he says that many of them have calculated it is better to go over the cliff, at least temporarily, than swallow a raw deal. with me is jonathan allen. it's good...
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they can't vote for what they campaigned against, spending money on government. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> tonight, in new york city, welcome to "politics nation" second annual revvie awards. it's the best and the worst in politics, 2012. look, all the big stars are on the red carpet. donald trump is in the unreality show category. paul ryan's pumped and ready to go. what's with the hat there? >> and what's an awards show without this guy. he survived a really rough year and he's looking just great tonight. the evening is about to get started. so take a seat before clint eastwood yells at it. sit back and enjoy the show. without further adieu, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome your master of ceremonies and the host of "politics nation," the reverend al sharpton. >> good evening. and welcome to "the revvie awards." i'm al sharpton and the host of this evening's festivities. it's a big night and we'll be giving out awards for the high and low points of politics in 2012. to do t
they can't vote for what they campaigned against, spending money on government. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> tonight, in new york city, welcome to "politics nation" second annual revvie awards. it's the best and the worst in politics, 2012. look, all the big stars are on the red carpet. donald trump is in the unreality show category. paul ryan's pumped and ready to go. what's...
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what they campaigned against was spending money on government, that is what taxes are. got it? and that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get to work. >> this is something within our capacity to solve. it doesn't take that much work, we just have to do the right thing. >> six days away from the fiscal cliff and there are real consequences to millions of americans if no deal is cut. congressman elijah cummings and ryan grim of the huffington post are here with the latest. a tea party giant stages a coupe with his own office. the details on dick armey's hostile takeover. the nra is catching heat from all directions. >> i don't think the nra is listening, i don't think they understand. >> georgetown university law professor, david cole on the growing drum
what they campaigned against was spending money on government, that is what taxes are. got it? and that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get to...
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doctors will see an immediate cut in medicare payments from the government. here to talk about this with us, jared bernstein who served as vice president biden's chief economist and now senior fellow the center of budget and policy orders. msnbc contributor. we thank you so much for coming on the show. mr. bernstein, i want to put up a graphic in terms of the literal impact going over the fiscal cliff. if you make $20,000 you will see tax hike of $412. if you are middle $, 40,000 to $65,000, average tax hike of fearly nearly $2,000 which is significant. is this being lost on the policymakers now? >> i think it is. i mean -- if you -- were really concerned about how middle income people are doing and howing the unemployed are doing, how the average person who depends on their pay paycheck, not their stock portfolio is doing, you quickly resolve these cliff issues so the tax rates don't revert to get you the results you just showed. very quickly extend unemployment. i mean, i thought the point that someone made earlier in the reporting was critical. there are m
doctors will see an immediate cut in medicare payments from the government. here to talk about this with us, jared bernstein who served as vice president biden's chief economist and now senior fellow the center of budget and policy orders. msnbc contributor. we thank you so much for coming on the show. mr. bernstein, i want to put up a graphic in terms of the literal impact going over the fiscal cliff. if you make $20,000 you will see tax hike of $412. if you are middle $, 40,000 to $65,000,...
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and so there were two government shutdowns. then public opinion shifted strongly against that. the leaders of your caucus and congress decided i'd probably win in '96, and we started working together because the shutdowns were an action-forcing event. this time, after the election, there will be less gridlock. if governor romney were to win, he'd just implement the agenda that he campaigned on. >> right. >> and if the president wins re-election, which is what i think will happen, it no longer makes sense to have your number one goal, defeating him for re-election, because he can't run for anything. and i believe -- and he will no longer have, as his number one goal, drawing distinctions between himself and his party that says they want to beat him. they both will have a dramatically greater incentive to get stuff done. >> will the parties allow that to happen? because you look at what happened in the '90s. and i'll be the first to admit it, that i didn't see some things coming. i would say democrats didn't as well in '93 and '94, i campaigned on the tax increase, and i got elec
and so there were two government shutdowns. then public opinion shifted strongly against that. the leaders of your caucus and congress decided i'd probably win in '96, and we started working together because the shutdowns were an action-forcing event. this time, after the election, there will be less gridlock. if governor romney were to win, he'd just implement the agenda that he campaigned on. >> right. >> and if the president wins re-election, which is what i think will happen, it...
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the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very much for joining us. one of the most beautiful words in the epg lash language graphs coming up. my wife takes centrum silver. i've been on the fence about it. then i read an article about a study that looked at the long term health benefits of taking multivitamins. they used centrum silver for the study... so i guess my wife was right. [ male announcer ] centrum. always your most complete. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ mal
the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very...
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a lot of them want to govern. i think things can happen quickly in january. >> there is a lot of talk with the gop looking ahead to the debt limit when there will be anything substantial don entitlement reform and things of that nature. and how worries are you that we could see a repeat of the possible down great of the u.s. createit rating? >> i'm concerned about it. we reached the debt limit, but tricks we can play to keep the government operating. that looks like no more than 60 days. it's an arbitrary and useless statute. denmark i think is the only other country that has something like that. this would be gamesmanship of the most dangerous kind. i hope nobody is going to play that game. i know the president said he is not going to play that game. if the republicans think they use that as leverage, they do that at their own risk. >> congressman, good luck to the cardinals. take care. >> thank you, luke. >> we are keeping our eye on how the stalemate is playing on wall street and president george hw bush is now
a lot of them want to govern. i think things can happen quickly in january. >> there is a lot of talk with the gop looking ahead to the debt limit when there will be anything substantial don entitlement reform and things of that nature. and how worries are you that we could see a repeat of the possible down great of the u.s. createit rating? >> i'm concerned about it. we reached the debt limit, but tricks we can play to keep the government operating. that looks like no more than 60...
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they say they are a governing party and they right now are causing the government to completely rewire the way that it deals with the deficit. and they say that there is pain in that process. but the long-term debate and the reason why they don't need to be inside the meeting room is they've got so many of the people in that room afraid of them that we are having a debate between how much to cut the deficit and not to do jobs or stimulus and the things paul reuben talks about. >> they've had an impact, but it's not a governing agenda in terms of accomplishments that would get to their goal of deficit reduction and long-term economic growth. >> on that point, why not? >> because they're standing in the way of allowing that to happen. they're saying you can't come to an accommodation on the issue of taxes. if you can't do that, there's no way you can -- >> well, i would disagree with you and disagree with ben a little bit. what they've proved in the fist year is if you do hold certain things hostage, you can get results. and we already have $1 trillion worth of debt reduction because of
they say they are a governing party and they right now are causing the government to completely rewire the way that it deals with the deficit. and they say that there is pain in that process. but the long-term debate and the reason why they don't need to be inside the meeting room is they've got so many of the people in that room afraid of them that we are having a debate between how much to cut the deficit and not to do jobs or stimulus and the things paul reuben talks about. >> they've...
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we do have divided government. the speaker of the house is republican. the house majority is a republican majority. here's the problem. you might be able to get it through the senate. and the president can set up whatever legislation me wants to, but the question becomes is can -- if john boehner can't get a tax increase on millionaires how in the hell will he get a ban on assault weapons. you just heard a congressman from kansas, the great state of kansas and the home of bob dole who said no way. i doubt they'll get it through the house. >> chris, you'll be up next when it comes to the big three's best and worst of the week after a break. a two-step process that removes even coarse, stubborn facial hair gently. plenty of gain, without all that pain... with olay. hi, i'm ensure clear... clear, huh? i'm not juice or fancy water. i've got nine grams of protein. that's three times more than me! [ female announcer ] ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giant
we do have divided government. the speaker of the house is republican. the house majority is a republican majority. here's the problem. you might be able to get it through the senate. and the president can set up whatever legislation me wants to, but the question becomes is can -- if john boehner can't get a tax increase on millionaires how in the hell will he get a ban on assault weapons. you just heard a congressman from kansas, the great state of kansas and the home of bob dole who said no...
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we have one party government in the biggest state of the country. >> how does he use it? >> how does he use it. the liberal panacea we'll see for the first time. and you went with a conservative potential rising star out in south carolina who is struggling. >> nick kki haley is struggling her state but at the same time she is a big national figure. i'm curious to see what she does going forward. >> all right, stephanie, your picks were -- one was predictable. one was unpredictable. >> i picked elizabeth warren who is my homestate new senator. she has senator kennedy's seat. i believe she is the most high-profile freshman senator. >> without a doubt. probably since hillary clinton. >> i think you're right. i think she's coming in the same way, keeping her head down. looking for people to work with reach across the aisle, moderating. >> is this a stepping stone for her? >> i don't know. there are great things she can accomplish there. it's rumored she could be on the senate banking committee. a consumer watchdog. this will be interesting to watch. >> she will butt heads wit
we have one party government in the biggest state of the country. >> how does he use it? >> how does he use it. the liberal panacea we'll see for the first time. and you went with a conservative potential rising star out in south carolina who is struggling. >> nick kki haley is struggling her state but at the same time she is a big national figure. i'm curious to see what she does going forward. >> all right, stephanie, your picks were -- one was predictable. one was...
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that is up to the government and the choices the government makes for the first weeks or month or two at least. for instance, the irs, the internal revenue service can decide what to do about how they treat the tax increase. the agency could delay increasing the amount it withholds from your paycheck each week assuming congress would reach a deal. that way you wouldn't notice the tax increase before it turned around. if it didn't get reversed, you're going to get quite a bill from the taxman. also if we go over the cliff, and the spending cuts begin to take hold, the various agencies of the federal government can consider putting employees on furlough. meaning they take unpaid days off. that's considered a better alternative than layoffs, if we don't get a deal quickly, the furloughs will have to become layoffs, that will mean real pain. >>> the great question is how quickly that pain will begin. would it hurt the real economy before we get a deal? or would the prospect of pain create such pressure, would congress change course before we feel it. the strategy of the folks who want to
that is up to the government and the choices the government makes for the first weeks or month or two at least. for instance, the irs, the internal revenue service can decide what to do about how they treat the tax increase. the agency could delay increasing the amount it withholds from your paycheck each week assuming congress would reach a deal. that way you wouldn't notice the tax increase before it turned around. if it didn't get reversed, you're going to get quite a bill from the taxman....
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an interest group out of control, not a government. democrats, even red state democrats, take note, sandy hook put a face on unlimited gun rights and an nra run amok. it's time to stop being afraid of the nra. time to stop changing the subject when guns are brought up. you, democratic politicians, can run on common sense gun restrictions, and you can win. for the first time in decades, there is now a political price to be paid for gun extremism, and i have got an idea for your first commercial. did you happen to see wayne lapierre on "meet the press"? that does it for us on "the cycle." karen finney is in the chair for martin bashir and it is all yours. >> thanks, krystal. good afternoon. i'm karen finney in for martin bashir on this thursday, december 27th. the president is back in washington, the senate is working against the clock, and speaker boehner, yeah, he's m.i.a. >> no new negotiations are scheduled. >> congress has five days to strike a deal before the end of the year deadline. >> they're calling it the fiscal cliff. [ speak
an interest group out of control, not a government. democrats, even red state democrats, take note, sandy hook put a face on unlimited gun rights and an nra run amok. it's time to stop being afraid of the nra. time to stop changing the subject when guns are brought up. you, democratic politicians, can run on common sense gun restrictions, and you can win. for the first time in decades, there is now a political price to be paid for gun extremism, and i have got an idea for your first commercial....
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this right here, it's a story of some government and politics and small town life. mr. fricke, the leading write-in vote getter told "the new york times" that politics has lost his luster, even in small towns. oh, gee, i wonder why. thank you, washington. but it's also a story, an interesting story about unemployment. you have a job available, one that only pays a hundred bucks a month, and nobody wants it. and that in this economy is very, very rare. a job nobody will take. for most available jobs, there are lines out the door of qualified applicants. and that is the most important fact about not just the economy, but about what is happening in washington right now, as we speak. the biggest deal, the biggest problem with a deal that has not been struck in congress is coming up next. >>> i want to get out of washington here for a minute. ti i want to show you the blaring headline today over the "tennessean" newspaper, the big newspaper in nashville, tennessee. 30,000 tennesseans will lose unemployment benefits with that fiscal cliff deal. 30,000. here is a headline at k
this right here, it's a story of some government and politics and small town life. mr. fricke, the leading write-in vote getter told "the new york times" that politics has lost his luster, even in small towns. oh, gee, i wonder why. thank you, washington. but it's also a story, an interesting story about unemployment. you have a job available, one that only pays a hundred bucks a month, and nobody wants it. and that in this economy is very, very rare. a job nobody will take. for most...
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and again, if you are leading, you're an executive in government you have to look at our employees as well. >> one of the things that struck me about the press conference and on meet the press, is the number of factual errors from lapierre. we're going to look at this and talk about it on the other side. >> killers, robbers, rapists, gang members, violent crime is increasing again. for the first time in 19 years. >> now, the increase in violent crime was due to assaults in which no weapon was involved. but you've got wayne lapierre saying precisely the opposite. >> gun prosecutions have tracked the up ticks and down ticks. the real doozy is that lapierre said on friday and again on sunday kind of fall into three categories. first is all of these questions, these policies that we're talking about, these new laws we're talking about whether they be clips or semiautomatics. whether they be background checks, somehow violate the second amendment. there are probably hundreds of challenges to in the federal courts on these laws that exist in many states. and they have all been vol dated. so
and again, if you are leading, you're an executive in government you have to look at our employees as well. >> one of the things that struck me about the press conference and on meet the press, is the number of factual errors from lapierre. we're going to look at this and talk about it on the other side. >> killers, robbers, rapists, gang members, violent crime is increasing again. for the first time in 19 years. >> now, the increase in violent crime was due to assaults in...
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to close the government. we are in a season where we need to act. >> you, congressman -- >> on something concrete. >> i didn't mean to interrupt you there but it sounds like you think it's a deliberate attempt to take the economy, the government. >> yeah. 55. the tea party members. not john boehner. john boehner's allowed himself to be captured by the fellows. he is above and beyond that. i think he's basically trying to do the right thing but he can't get a vote out of his own party for his own legislation. who does he turn to? the president of the united states? more worried about getting a proposition from the president to turn down then what proposition is he talking about? i think the president has been more than willing to compromise and the democrats in the house of representatives. we need 30 votes to get beyond our 190 that we have now. 191 in the house and 218 to pass anything. i think if harry reid does it, fine. let him do it. we need to think of what the country needs more than what each party do
to close the government. we are in a season where we need to act. >> you, congressman -- >> on something concrete. >> i didn't mean to interrupt you there but it sounds like you think it's a deliberate attempt to take the economy, the government. >> yeah. 55. the tea party members. not john boehner. john boehner's allowed himself to be captured by the fellows. he is above and beyond that. i think he's basically trying to do the right thing but he can't get a vote out of...
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this comes to a real test of the united states government. are our lawmakers going to be able to come up with meaningful action to limit at least the fire power that is available to everybody. we have such a love of the gun that it becomes almost impossible to try to change things. when wayne lapierre says call me crazy, he is crazy like a fox. he has come up with something that deflects the debate. the debate is can we limit the most lethal of guns in the possession of the people of the united states. >> former head of the drug administration will be spear heading the initiative. he had this reaction to the criticism has the the nra has received since friday's speech. >> they want to focus the debate on new laws and new prohibitions and i am saying it is the wrong debate. that is their solution. i believe a better solution is school safety initiatives, one of those options being an armed presence that we have in 1/3 of the schools. >> where does the debate go from here? to look at both sides it seems like we will never find a solution becaus
this comes to a real test of the united states government. are our lawmakers going to be able to come up with meaningful action to limit at least the fire power that is available to everybody. we have such a love of the gun that it becomes almost impossible to try to change things. when wayne lapierre says call me crazy, he is crazy like a fox. he has come up with something that deflects the debate. the debate is can we limit the most lethal of guns in the possession of the people of the united...
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the honest debate is that conservative people on the right want less government and destroy government to take what people get out of it. a way to end it. so we are not, and the left is not talking anymore about what the real issues are are, and we talked about in the break about social security, and they are going to gut social skuecurity. i'm okay. i'm old [ laughter ] but y'all are going to be in trouble when it comes to social security and your generations will be in trouble when it comes to social security, because they are going to take it back and gut it so people won't get their do. and we talked about, melissa, if they raised the cap and people who made up to $a 500,000 or more a year had to pay social security, there would be no social security problem for 75 years f. we had not raided the trust fund to begin with, there would not be a problem. we are not talking about the real stuff. >> so when we go over the cliff, whicht looks like we will do, we are talking about 2 million people losing unemployment insurance and immediate cuts to medicare for the poorest americans, and t
the honest debate is that conservative people on the right want less government and destroy government to take what people get out of it. a way to end it. so we are not, and the left is not talking anymore about what the real issues are are, and we talked about in the break about social security, and they are going to gut social skuecurity. i'm okay. i'm old [ laughter ] but y'all are going to be in trouble when it comes to social security and your generations will be in trouble when it comes...
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. >> i will tell you, it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education and the, what's the third one there? let's see. >> yeah. it's one thing to be unable to remember the facts. it is something else to make them up. before disappointing in january, minnesota representative michele bachmann treated us to her version of american history. >> the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the united states. men like john quincy adams who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country. >> yeah. the gop was running candidates that just made stuff up. congresswoman, the founders were slave owners and john quincy adams, not a founder. yes, it seemingly reached a mass of election ridiculousness in 2011. the fun was just beginning. no sooner had we cracked over the 2012 calendar than rick santorum dropped this race bait into the political waters in january. >> i don't want to make people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money. >> oh, blah -- right? hearing it once was hila
. >> i will tell you, it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education and the, what's the third one there? let's see. >> yeah. it's one thing to be unable to remember the facts. it is something else to make them up. before disappointing in january, minnesota representative michele bachmann treated us to her version of american history. >> the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the united...
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bring all 3 million of that one weapon back in, let the government, county, state and federal, pay you to take them back. you do don't need them. >>> we have to leave it there. thank you for your time. >>> speaker boehner has said it's up to the senate and the president to come up with a fiscal deal, but as some point out, he'll have to push a bill through the house. given last week's events it won't be easy. "the washington post" columnist e.j. dionne says that may be the silver lining, writing, quote -- now at least we know something important. the current rep majority cannot govern, only a coalition across party lines can get the public's business done. e.j. joins us now, a senior fellow with the brookings institution and an msnbc contributor. e.j., great to see you, as always. john boehner sits to the left of center of his caucus. can he work out a deal without inciting a full-scale revolt? >> well, we don't know that, but i think he'll have to test it. that really tells you something about how conservative the republican caucus has done. john boehner is a good conservative. what w
bring all 3 million of that one weapon back in, let the government, county, state and federal, pay you to take them back. you do don't need them. >>> we have to leave it there. thank you for your time. >>> speaker boehner has said it's up to the senate and the president to come up with a fiscal deal, but as some point out, he'll have to push a bill through the house. given last week's events it won't be easy. "the washington post" columnist e.j. dionne says that may...
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i'm increasing my interest because these guys can't run a government. you're looking toward going to a recession while we're playing politic s in washington. this is very serious. this is not just beltway rhetoric here. i think people need to understand to the point of calling their congressional representative in outrage today, saying we should not be at this point. they're playing politics with the actual livelihood of families. this is not something that -- it would be all right a week or two or three or four. we start going down the cliff, we don't know whether the momentum downward is going to be very, very damaging. >> yeah. maybe. >> you have that smirk on your face. >> well, maybe. i agree with the reverend that they're playing politics with livelihoods because it is a huge risk. you're right about that. i disagree a little bit on the sort of dramatic immediate impact of it. what we could get -- this is a responsibility, what we could get. i'm just trying to be optimistic because it's toward the end of the year and it's been a crummy year for a
i'm increasing my interest because these guys can't run a government. you're looking toward going to a recession while we're playing politic s in washington. this is very serious. this is not just beltway rhetoric here. i think people need to understand to the point of calling their congressional representative in outrage today, saying we should not be at this point. they're playing politics with the actual livelihood of families. this is not something that -- it would be all right a week or...
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government that sticks a gun to its head. sorry to use gun metaphors, but basically sticks a gun to its head and says we don't trust ourselves to legislate like normal people. even presidential commissions don't work anymore. what we've got to do is give ourselves artificial deadlines and bring ourselves to the precipice, create all sorts of uncertainty, create manufactured crises because without that pressure, we can no longer be counted on to do anything that remotely redecember bem zesembl thing. >> they're going to say okay, we can't do this all right now. let's set up a process for tax reform that will resolve itself in 2013. let's set up a process for entitlement reform in 2013 and create another trigger, sequestration, kicking the can down the road. but i would say one thing. what's interesting for me here is that republicans, by and large, have won this argument. they are getting a lot of spending cuts. they will get, if they want to accept it, some social security reform in terms of decreased benefits paid. it is def
government that sticks a gun to its head. sorry to use gun metaphors, but basically sticks a gun to its head and says we don't trust ourselves to legislate like normal people. even presidential commissions don't work anymore. what we've got to do is give ourselves artificial deadlines and bring ourselves to the precipice, create all sorts of uncertainty, create manufactured crises because without that pressure, we can no longer be counted on to do anything that remotely redecember bem zesembl...